tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2520747741674604369.post7281543130844456845..comments2023-03-18T07:47:27.142-07:00Comments on Startin' a Ruckus: Just PlayUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2520747741674604369.post-23939446947714568192009-02-25T06:40:00.000-08:002009-02-25T06:40:00.000-08:00Yep. 30 Badges of Heroism gets you either Savage ...Yep. 30 Badges of Heroism gets you either Savage Gloves or Shoulders. 45 Badges gets you Chest, Legs or Helm.<BR/><BR/>30 Badges of Valor gets you Hateful Gloves or Shoulders. 45 Valor gets you Chest, Legs or Helm.<BR/><BR/>No rating required on any of it.<BR/><BR/>Yep.. you have to PvE to PvP.<BR/><BR/>Seems like the tables have turned...Chuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06568491099357930698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2520747741674604369.post-57923053442289851292009-02-25T00:10:00.000-08:002009-02-25T00:10:00.000-08:00Thanks for that answer, quite a pleasure to read t...Thanks for that answer, quite a pleasure to read that my feeling about raid being easier isn't just illusion.<BR/><BR/>Yet I raid no longer. But do you mean that if I use badges to get PVP Gear then there is no team rating applied to it ?? Same for archavon's vault ?<BR/>Man, do you mean you have to PVE to gear for PVP ?<BR/><BR/>That would be funny, because in BC you needed to PVP to do good in PVE for most melee dps class (for the weapons). Bah.Gronyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08610340216153044215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2520747741674604369.post-25903612800070826172009-02-24T06:25:00.000-08:002009-02-24T06:25:00.000-08:00This is exactly the reason why many PvP'ers think ...This is exactly the reason why many PvP'ers think that PvE is easy compared to the Arena (not BG's). In PvE, you have tanking rotations and in raids, that tanking is usually just 1 boss or 1 add. It really can't get any easier.<BR/><BR/>But in PvP, you're often dealing with far complex situations, using your cooldowns situationally instead of every time they come up (Barkskin, Berserk). It's that decisionmaking process that bogs people down.<BR/><BR/>You and your disc priest are doing the right thing by sticking with it and getting better. Fortunately, ferals dont need as much gear as other DPS since they can swap into Bear form to mitigate alot of damage, however, as you learn and gear up, you'll start seeing returns for your efforts.<BR/><BR/>If you raid alot, spend badges on Hateful Gear. I think Naxx 25 pve gear is better than Savage, but I would shoot for 400-500 resilience through Vault/Badges of Valor.<BR/><BR/>The reason why Raiding and gearing up through PvE is so easy is because Blizzard dropped the ball on making the entry level raids REALLY easy. It's essentially free loot, but getting to 1700 for many is still very difficult, and part of that is because they expect it to be easy as well, but Blizzard has no control of opponent skill.Chuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06568491099357930698noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2520747741674604369.post-12503229573365345562009-02-24T00:23:00.000-08:002009-02-24T00:23:00.000-08:00I would say it has a lot to do with Frustration.I ...I would say it has a lot to do with Frustration.<BR/><BR/>I am part of that group that 'wish to pvp a lot, but had so many excuses to not doing so'.<BR/>So, in LK I decided to try out harder. I'm feral. I was used to BG in BC and before, so I went there, in quest blue. Burst is insane. Spending more time in cimentry than alive isn't fun.<BR/><BR/>So I specced moonkin (I had tried moonkin bg before, and I'm more confortable with placement, fleeing and the like). I dressed full 187 LW Resil gear. 300ish. Went to bg, well moderate success, you still drop like flies but since you are from range, you can hide in bushes, take people by surprise, or remain behind some big fat DK. Then I tried arena (a few games only) : tough.<BR/><BR/>Odds made it I had to respec feral to be able to go to 5-mans with friends. So I left arena aside. I geared my 5-man heroic and faction reward bear and cat. Then decided that 5-man tanking shouldn't leave me out of pvp. So I went back to bg, and guess what... I had the feeling I could actually help my team win ! I would die, yes, but I could survive long enough defending points for reinforcement to arrive etc. I could even stealth burst some clothies ! and I had 0 resil.<BR/><BR/>So I spent a bit extra honor (I have the 84 trinket already), my 15 wintergrasp victory marks, and I went to arena with barely 150 resil. With a disc priest. We felt we could actually win some games.<BR/><BR/>But, the first two weeks, despite 1 win for 2 loss, we kept losing so many points per loss (like 20-25) vs earninng so few per victory (like 3-8) that we ended up 1000 rating.<BR/><BR/>For three weeks of games, we saw no progress at all in gear, poor arena points gained. Only sinergy and strategy increases. The jitters lowered. THREE freaking weeks to get there ! I can't remember having spent that much time to be able to correctly tank my first raids...<BR/><BR/>Now we are about 1 victory 1 loss, we feel "quite" comfortable. I have better understanding of how to burst, when to bear, who to focus first, etc. Yet the question remain : how and when will I hit the 1500 rating back ??? and then... will I hit that 1650 freaking rating before next Season gets out, and everybody else gears up but me ?<BR/><BR/>PVP (or arena ?) is fun, yet very very frustrating.<BR/>Maybe it's because i have 3 years raiding behind me, but gearing in raid or instances, doesn't seem to take so much time, and is certainly not that much frustrating.<BR/><BR/>or ?Gronyonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08610340216153044215noreply@blogger.com